CAMMAZ Meeting Minutes: February 18th, 2016
A CAMMAZ meeting was held at 425 East Greenway Drive in Tempe on Feb 17th at 7:00 PM. The meeting was called to plan support for Senate Bill 1440 which will enable restoration of the Arizona Mining and Mineral Museum in Phoenix if it becomes law.
The meeting began with a detailed review of the museum status, covering the veto of SB1200 in 2015 and the progress of SB1440 (a nearly identical bill) in 2016. There was only one supporter present at the Senate Government Committee meeting, but the bill was passed out of committee by a 4 to 3 vote. The 3 no votes are a concern, because SB1200 passed both House and Senate with only 5 no votes (out of 90) in 2015. The AHS took a neutral position in 2015, but is very actively opposing the bill in 2016, even though it has no plan for the building.
The next public hearing will be before the Senate Appropriations Committee next Tuesday. All agreed that CAMMAZ needed to provide better support at that hearing.
Two means of support were discussed; submission of comments on www.azleg.gov and personal appearances at public committee hearings. Action to solicit online comments from the public will include a call to action on CAMMAZ.net and personal communication via email lists.
Five people volunteered to speak in support of SB1200 at the upcoming hearing on Tuesday. They coordinated their plans for comments, so they will not be redundant. They also reviewed the hearing process, and understand that public comments may likely be limited to two minutes. They will prepare their presentations accordingly.
The group also discussed reaching out to other CAMMAZ supporters not able to attend the meeting. A number of candidates were identified and will be contacted by CAMMAZ. If additional people are willing to speak in support of the bill, their comments will be coordinated with the other speakers in advance to avoid redundancy and to present the best overall public support for SB1440.
Scott and Robin Evans
Doug and Lee Lindsay
Jack and Genie Howell
Dick and Mardy Zimmermann
CAMMAZ meeting minutes: Oct 29, 2015
The new CAMMAZ.net website was reviewed and plans to involve more supporters via the website were discussed. The attendees were very pleased with the website.
The current museum situation was reviewed, including past and future action on SB1200, the competing UA plan to move the mineral collection to Tucson, and current AHS efforts to support the claim that the mineral museum is now in Tempe.
Most of the time was spent discussing how CAMMAZ can support mineral museum restoration during the next legislative session. Groups that CAMMAZ can reach out to be identified and the following actions items were established;
Tony: Get info on CAMMAZ in ASTA newsletter; Dick to provide draft text
Tony: Invite AzGS (AZ Geographical Alliance) (Cathy Davis) to join
Shirley: Invite t people that loaned or donated material to the mineral museum to join CAMMAZ
Shirley: Ask rock clubs to sign letter of support (Zimmermanns to draft letter)
Cyn— : Coordinate with Charlie to invite Monday Crew, APA, and Freeport contacts to join
Jan: Invite AGS and ASARCO to join (Sterling Cook)
Mardy: Invite students and teachers to join
Ed: Submit article to Rock and Gem
Janet: Try to get air time on KFNX talk show
Dick: Invite Deborah Miller (Republican Party) to join
All: Think about other ways that CAMMAZ can reach out to the community for support.
Additional groups to potentially be asked for support included:
- Arizona Mining Association
- Other mining companies
- Railroad Museum (to save badly gauge locomotive)
- EDGETA (historic equipment interest)
- Retired miners
- Civic groups
- Channel 8 – PBS Horizon
Other actin items: Harvey is going to design a CAMMAZ postcard
Another envelope stuffing and mailing session for the Legislature was discussed. Jan recommended waiting until the end of the year, when the next Legislative session is about to begin.
Dick and Mardy Zimmermann
MINERAL MUSEUM RESTORATION MEETING MINUTES – Feb 7, 2015
The meeting began with a quick review of the events of the past five years following the passage of legislation giving the Arizona Historical Society control of the mineral museum. The group then discussed the value of the mineral museum and reasons why the Legislature and the Governor should support the restoration of the mineral museum. The reasons for restoration were as follows:
- To support STEM* education, especially K-12
- To properly preserve specimens with scientific value
- To reunite mineral collection with supporting data (already in possession of the AGS**)
- To make mineral specimens available for scientific research
- To preserve Arizona’s heritage (especially historic mining equipment)
- To reopen a formerly top rated, international tourist attraction in the Southwestern USA
- To permit visitors to view unique Arizona mineral specimens in a scientific context
- To provide a venue for scientific conferences and symposiums
- To permit the community to broaden the scope of the museum to provide education on earth science and natural resources
*Science, technology, engineering, and math
**Arizona Geological Survey
The group then developed the following mineral museum restoration plan:
PROPOSED MINERAL MUSEUM RESTORATION PLAN:
The mineral museum can be restored without new funds if state government performs the steps in part A below. The community (volunteers, nonprofit organizations, and corporate donors) can then return the museum to operation by performing steps in part B below. At least step 1 in part A must be accomplished before the community can effectively proceed with the steps in part B
A: Government (legislative / administrative / agency) action required:
- Pass legislation* transferring museum authority to the Arizona Geological Survey (AGS)
- Transfer existing mineral museum state budget to the AGS (rent and 1employee)
- Transfer AZ centennial license plate funds (retroactively) to AGS.
- Transfer mineral museum property to the AGS (mineral collection, artifact collection, displays, cases, gift shop inventory, equipment, furniture, tools, supplies, and educational resource material not formally a part of the mineral collection)
- Transfer gift shop cash account as of April 2011 plus cash from subsequent sales of mineral museum property at AHS facilities to the AGS
- Coordinate transfer of museum property from AHS to AGS (identify locations and arrange for access)
- Inspect mineral museum building and document any changes to the interior that might prevent reopening the museum (the AHS may have altered or removed existing interior features).
- For any unrecoverable mineral museum property, transfer compensating funds from the AHS budget or AHS accounts to the AGS**
- For any detrimental alterations to the interior of the mineral museum building, transfer compensating funds from the AHS budget or AHS accounts to the AGS**
* Applicable statutes identified in current SB 1016
** These conditions are believed appropriate because the AHS knowingly violated state statutes (Allen amendment to centennial museum bill in 2010) when it closed the mineral museum and disposed of its contents, and because compensation for any missing property and negative facility alterations will be necessary to permit the mineral museum to reopen.
Note: Former mineral museum supporters were deeply offended when the AHS was permitted to close and dismantle the mineral museum. They felt their decades of support were unrecognized and unappreciated by state government. The state will have to take positive action (at least pass corrective legislation) before active community support can be regained to complete the steps in part B..
B: Community action (coordinated with AGS) required:
- Secure commitments from 501 c 3 nonprofit support groups
- Reestablish private grant programs
- Recruit and train volunteers
- Solicit donations
- Inventory mineral collection
- Assemble museum displays
- Restore gift shop operations
- Hire part time employees (supported with gift shop proceeds)
- Restore K-12 education programs for both students and teachers
- Sponsor two family days a year, as before
- Provide researchers with access to collections*
- Broaden scope beyond minerals (geology, other natural resources) to enhance educational value and broaden the base for public support (especially private grants).
- Less than 20% of the collection was on display
The following people attended the planning meeting:
Doug and Lee Lindsay, Board Member, Flagg Mineral Foundation
Stan Celestian, geologist, Arizona State University
Sue Celestian geologist, Arizona State University, former mineral museum curator
Janel Stoeppelmann, educator, East Valley Academy
Ken Ryan, educator East Valley Academy
Lynne and Terry Dyer, Mineralogical Society of Arizona
Harvey Jong, Flagg Mineral Foundation, President of Earth Science Museum
Shirley Cote, former museum staff member
Dick Zimmermann, retired engineer, Flagg Mineral Foundation
Mardy Zimmermann, retired teacher, Earth Science Museum outreach program
Gordon and Terry Byrn, Flagg Mineral Foundation
Cynthia Buckner, mining equipment donor
Judy Dixon, Secretary of Arizona Prospectors Association
Ev Dixon, former museum volunteer
Stuart Harrah, retired engineer
Steven Corrigan, Arizona Prospectors Association
George Busby, VP of Arizona Prospectors Association
Joy Parker, President, Arizona Leaverites Gem and Mineral Society
Robin Evans, geology student
Scott Evans, Maricopa Lapidary Society
Tom Parks, former museum staff instructor
The following people responded to the short meeting notice to offer support, but were unable to attend due to other commitments (the meeting notice was released only 4 days prior to the meeting via email). Many had commitments at the opening of the annual mineral show in Tucson.
Jan Rasmussen, geologist, former mineral museum curator
Tom LaBonte, Mineralogical Society of Arizona
Alice LaBonte. Editor of the Rocky Mountain Federation Mineral clubs newsletter and Mineralogical Society of Arizona
Steve Decker, Board member, Flagg Mineral Foundation
William Hawes, Former president of the Mining Association of the South West
Tony Occhiuzzi, science teacher
Ann Baker, former gift shop manager at the mineral museum
Les Presmyk, mining engineer SRP
Genie Howell, AZ Department of Water Resources retiree, Flagg Mineral Foundation board member
Steve Pegler, engineer
Karen Bagwell, mining equipment donor
Ray Grant, geologist, Mesa Community College
Sandi and Gene Sawyer
Phil Richardson, engineer, and Chairman of the Flagg Mineral Foundation
Chris Whitney Smith, President, Mineralogical Society of Arizona
Mike Williams, Secretary, Flagg Mineral Foundation
Jennifer Jordan, teacher
Doug Duffy, former mineral museum instructor
Bob Holmes, meteorite collector